Wednesday, January 20, 2010

Going to a job everyday to feed the family v. hunting for food to feed the family?

Could this deprivation and often sad substitute be a huge reason so many modern marriages fail? The only widely known primal urge for women is to bear children. They may do this anyway. Men seem to be deprived of being men. Modern times and survival techniques deprive the man from such instincts, not feminism.Going to a job everyday to feed the family v. hunting for food to feed the family?
If you're going to talk natural instincts you need to go back further, evidence suggests that in Paleolithic times men were not the providers, women and men shared the hunting and gathering, while women made the tools, the clothes, did all the cooking, cleaning, child rearing, and any other work necessary to maintain the community. Men's only contributions were muscle and sperm which is why women developed the preference for bigger, stronger men that we still see today. You should also note that it is women who have the nesting and communal instincts, women tend to contribute far more to keeping communities together than do men, which is why isolated communities deprived of women tend to fall apart more quickly than do such communities deprived of men.


It was only when society had evolved to the point that life was easy enough for there to be classes of people who didn't need to contribute to the immediate needs of survival that things like aristocracy and castes started to develop and that was when the fact that men were larger and stronger became enough of a social advantage for women to become an oppressed class. The distinction you describe is social custom not instinct, you overlook the fact the lifelong heterosexual monogamy has never worked to any large extent over any long period of time, marriage is a social construct that runs contrary to many human instincts, failed marriages have always been the result unless the law made it impossible for women to survive on their own. Now that they can men are increasingly being seen as luxuries not necessities and marriage is no longer seen as the only option, that's to be expected if men don't have anything to offer that women can't do for themselves.Going to a job everyday to feed the family v. hunting for food to feed the family?
Well, in hunter-gatherer societies women as well as men are usually engaged in the search for food, with women doing the gathering and men the hunting. It is possible that both men and women in modern times sometimes feel that their jobs are less than enthralling. Certainly people spend far more of their time working nowadays than people in hunter-gatherer societies do in getting their food, I understand that 4 hours a day is usually about the amount of time needed to provide enough food for the family.





Possibly modern women feel disengaged from their gatherer roots as well, I think myself this is one of the reasons for the popularity of shopping with women, as shopping resembles gathering much more than it does hunting.
I don't think men are instinctual hunters, but simply want to have achievement and appreciation. A man killed something for food=achievement. A man brought it home, woman praised him=appreciation. How many women tell their husband ';thank you'; and appreciate what he does? Besides, how are you providing electricity, clothes, the mortgage, etc by hunting?
Always seeking to absolve feminism of it's crimes...
Those who adapt, survive.
Some of my favorite tv shows right now are





into the wild (where folks go into the wilds of Alaska and try to make their way for a couple of weeks - men AND women participate)....They all suck at hunting...they'll catch one one pound bird and bring it back for 9 people to eat...instead of waiting until they catch nine one pound birds





man vs wild





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good question....a star for you......male urges have been demonized far more in big cities and less so in urban areas





one of the reasons i love rural Florida is sissies are not allowed....you could die too easily.......same with most of Utah, New Mexico and Alaska





the temp almost never goes above 100 degrees (or below 90 during the day) and the humidity almost never goes below 90%....it doesnt rain all day, but it sure seems to rain every day (this spring)

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